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Conversations about Christopher Plummer at the NewYorker Movie Facebook Club


Roxanne Jones
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Spacey's predation aside, why didn't they make this casting choice in the first place? You know. Have an elderly actor play an elderly character?


rent Richardson
Brent Richardson Christopher Plummer was better casting for the part, anyhow. He looks more like Getty and Spacey's heavy make-up looked too obvious.
Tom Haggas Need to put butts in seats. Until a month ago, Spacey would have done that a little better than Plummer.
Roxanne Jones Yeah, that's true. Some people probably don't even know that Plummer is still alive.
lberto J Leal
Alberto J Leal I planned on going to see this movie with Spacey in it, and I still plan to see it without him.
om Haggas
Tom Haggas They probably think that was him at the beginning of Force Awakens.
lberto J Leal
Alberto J Leal Tom Haggas Christopher Plummer is an iconic actor. There is no confusing him with anyone else.
om Haggas
Tom Haggas Alberto J Leal Eh. Don't overestimate the intelligence of the average American filmgoer. 
*cough*Transformers*cough*
Elizabeth Lloyd-Kimbrel Plummer is not only still alive but kicking ass with three films in post-production besides this Spacey switch. (Highly recommend tracking down the PBS broadcast of his "Barrymore."

oxanne Jones
Roxanne Jones The fact that they announced Plummer so quickly leads me to believe he was considered at first but thrown over for someone else.
onnie Barrow
Jonnie Barrow My understanding is that Scott wanted him initially but the studio pushed for Spacey because he *was* more appealing to audiences.
oxanne Jones


lberto J Leal
Alberto J Leal I agree. Even though I admired the makeup work, I never understood the reason behind having Spacey play an older man. I thought there might be flashback scenes but it doesn't seem to be the case.
om Haggas
Tom Haggas It does make me wonder how few scenes J Paul Getty has in this.
Brent Richardson Going to guess, not many. This appears to be the story of the kidnapped grandson and the horrifying impact it had on his life. His grandfather wasn't a close loving family member. He was a distant but powerful entity to be obeyed or suffer his wraith. Probably how he'll be played.
Jonnie Barrow Apparently Spacey only shot for ten days - trailer looks to be far more about Michelle Williams tbh
om Haggas
Tom Haggas Jonnie Barrow An honest trailer? How refreshing.

aureen Daniels
Maureen Daniels I hope that if Plummer was considered for the part before it was given to Spacey, he has now at least doubled his fee.
Roxanne Jones Damn skippy!


om Haggas
Tom Haggas One thing is for certain, this movie could have the best Blu-ray supplements we've seen in a long time. As long as they don't puss out and act like Spacey was never going to be in it in the first place. I'd love to hear the decision making process and the process of getting this on screens in six weeks.
reg Stewart
Greg Stewart Bet they puss out.

d Sadowski
Ed Sadowski Plummer is a better actor than Spacey anyway
on Larkin
Don Larkin no he isn’t

llen Liang
Ellen Liang Looks like no other actor has been so reviled and punished in this manner. Surely this hasn't been uncommon behavior. I wonder how many more acting careers will be ruined.
reg Stewart
Greg Stewart Molesting children is at least relatively uncommon!
reg Stewart


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lizabeth Lloyd-Kimbrel
Elizabeth Lloyd-Kimbrel Corey Feldman has been trying to talk about this for years, not just now.
ickles Mcgee
Pickles Mcgee Acting career ruined but not the life of an innocent child? That's an unfortunate statement.
Patrick McEvoy-Halston Pickles Mcgee Yeah, I agree. On our end however we should be prepared if a good portion of Hollywood gets crippled... we have almost willed the place to be a place where either your dreams are realized or you get completely ground up. I think a lot of the American populace wanted there to be lots of Weinsteins there, for it embodying the American dream more than any other place other than perhaps New York... as well as their uncertainty about it. It is possible that people working there either sensed the collective latitude towards their playing the role of the dream-maker but also the predator, or, even, responded to our felt needs to absolutely provide both, which we all now completely disown. 

If we were capable of this kind of sophisticated thought, we might well save Hollywood, as well as Washington D.C., as well as New York, which the rightwing of America are sensing are in the process of being revealed as cesspools... the places that have preached the most against them, revealed to be beyond hypocritical into a reptilian scale of evil.
llen Liang
Ellen Liang My point was that this hasn't happened to actors that I know of, only directors such as Polanski and Allen, and they continued their careers. Am not debating the morality of this behavior.
reg Stewart
Greg Stewart Commercial impact. Period. Other articles mention that Plummer was Scott's first choice but he was overruled by the studio.

Thato Kabelo Sekhoto Yes. Ridley wanted Plummer but Sony wanted Spacey.

Griselda Haygood I saw the trailer for "All The Money in the World," and even though he was only in the trailer for a brief minute, I thought he nailed the lookk of J. Paul Getty. Look at what these great artists do to commit career suicide...
alph Benner


“I'm super fast.“
arol Steel
Carol Steel I'm disgusted by this action by Sony.
They force a director to use their choice then bail?
I hope no one goes to see it. 
I know I won't.
atrick McEvoy-Halston
Patrick McEvoy-Halston Pickles Mcgee Yeah, I agree. On our end however we should be prepared if a good portion of Hollywood gets crippled... we have almost willed the place to be a place where either your dreams are realized or you get completely ground up. I think a lot of the American populace wanted there to be lots of Weinsteins there, for it embodying the American dream more than any other place other than perhaps New York... as well as their uncertainty about it. It is possible that people working there either sensed the collective latitude towards their playing the role of the dream-maker but also the predator, or, even, responded to our felt needs to absolutely provide both, which we all now completely disown. 

If we were capable of this kind of sophisticated thought, we might well save Hollywood, as well as Washington D.C., as well as New York, which the rightwing of America are sensing are in the process of being revealed as cesspools... the places that have preached the most against them, revealed to be beyond hypocritical into a reptilian scale of evil.

Stephen Conn Guilty until proven innocent (at least Trump's people really met with the Russians).
oyce Rubin Deschamps
Joyce Rubin Deschamps Agree not only because of age but Plummer is Olivier compared to a very whiny voiced Spacey.
atrick McEvoy-Halston
Patrick McEvoy-Halston Spacey has just come out as a homosexual. "Whiny voiced" might carry some associations -- of men who aren't really men.
oyce Rubin Deschamps
Joyce Rubin Deschamps Patrick McEvoy-Halston never entered my mind. He was very whiny in The Usual Suspects, American Beauty...Plummer has a superior voice, imho. But any reference to his coming out is completely unintended.
atrick McEvoy-Halston

icolas Bordet
Nicolas Bordet The nice thing with acting is you can play something else than yourself.
izzie Nicholson
Lizzie Nicholson but ...they also removed a big draw from the movie. I adore Plummer, but Spacey is a bigger box office draw than Christopher...and all this so they can issue the movie for the Oscars...a bit hypocritical
marrk CommandoJjullstrrom
Mmarrk CommandoJjullstrrom No one seems to mind the bad things that Wahlberg (he's in this movie too) wrought in his younger days. It does make a difference to some, whether seeing that kind of person perform is enjoyable.
oxanne Jones
Roxanne Jones Wahlberg is one of the reasons I wasn't going to see this anyway.



rian Duggan
Brian Duggan "Daisy Clover" still is his best cinematic effort.
om Haggas
Tom Haggas The court of public opinion is fickle. What Weinstein, Spacey, Louis CK and Wahlberg have done is disgusting and I don't really care if they ever appear on a screen again. 

As an observer of pop culture, I think there's an element of who we perceive these people to be versus who they are in real life. Kevin Spacey's revelation was a bit jarring because it was counter to what a lot of us expected. On the other hand, Louis CK had a pretty low bar because his comedy was so self-deprecating that we weren't nearly as surprised.

With Wahlberg, that news has been out for a while, and he's been very forthcoming about his 25 year old felonies and again, picturing a young Southie Mark Wahlberg as someone who would beat up people isn't an impossible mental feat. As with most things, expectations affect bias. oxanne Jones
Roxanne Jones Gawker (RIP) kept a running tab on the rumors about Spacey and Louis C.K. for years. They posted many stories of younger men being approached and propositioned by Spacey. 
Louis' situation was open knowledge among women within the comedy community because his victims talked about it. Tig Notaro even called him out in an episode of her show.
If you don't follow celebrity news or gossip, then yes, this stuff is shocking.
om Haggas
Tom Haggas With celebrity news and gossip, how do you draw the line? So much of it is made up. I follow entertainment news closely, but don't even glance at the grocery checkout rags. For every one thing they get right, there's 20 that are made up.
Roxanne Jones True. For me, it's depends. I'm more likely to believe something coming from TMZ than US Weekly. 
I was willing to give Gawker/Defamer the benefit of the doubt regarding Spacey and Louis CK because they went out of their way not to offer mere gossip but actual industry news, just not flattering news. However, in both cases they couldn't get folks to speak on the record. So I took it with a pinch of salt.
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